Comments on: Potential Lithium Orotate Benefits & Uses (incl. for Anxiety) https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/ Cutting-Edge Solutions For a Better Life Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:16:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.1 By: Beca https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-103366 Tue, 25 Aug 2020 23:08:46 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-103366 Too hard to isolate amt of lith oro or citrate needed per JC recommendations from other SH articles

]]> By: William Mace https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-98611 Wed, 15 Jul 2020 14:31:10 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-98611 Thanks very well written. I have been taking Lithium Oratate 360mg every morning for two years. I used to have angry episodes to things i could not control. I can tell you L.O. completely stops and reverses this. I do not need to increase over time. I discovered L.O. in connection to my wifes suicide attempts and hospitalization. After mulitiple recurring events i suggested that the doctors put her on lithium carbonate to at least keep her safe. This worked untill she wouldnt take it any more. “Its killing me” This is when i discovered lithium oratate by hans Napier. To show her it was safe i took it myself at 360mg. Guess what, it stopped my anger episodes and helped me with her mental challenges. Then she agreed to take it also at 120mg. I just want to say OMG she is a different person! Stable productive balanced. She still takes a number of pharmaceuticals that she was on before however untill the lithium oratate were not really helping. She would have huge mood swings. Now she is steady as she goes. It has been two years and no more suicidal episodes. By the way No side effects. Thank you. Will

]]> By: Morris Jr. https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-58881 Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:38:49 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-58881 Orotic acid can be mutagenic in very high doses of 50 mg/kg in mammalian somatic cells. So a 150 lb person would have to ingest about 3500 mg of orotate. That would require 28 Lithium Orotate capsules. So sticking to 2-3 capsules a day seems like a non issue, when it comes to cancer threat.

]]> By: Mr. Dude https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-42717 Wed, 14 Nov 2018 00:28:26 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-42717 In reply to Aaron Solt.

What about the aspartate form of lithium? Does that make it to the brain when taken orally and cross the BBB or is it also broken down by the digestive system?

]]> By: CSue https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-36991 Tue, 07 Aug 2018 15:35:36 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-36991 We need to know how those effects relate to dosage. Is 5mg of litium orotate going to cause hypothyroidism and gut inflammation and dehydration? Or only large doses used for psychiatric diseases? I suspect studies have only been done with the higher doses.

]]> By: Aaron Solt https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-32071 Sat, 07 Apr 2018 01:18:08 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-32071 Lithium orotate is not natural. Lithium carbonate is. 5 mg of lithium in 120 mg of lithium orotate has as much lithium (5mg) as 50 mg of lithium carbonate. Five pills has as much lithium as 250 mg of lithium carbonate.

The reason the carbonate is prescription only is because it was fda tested. The orotate is otc because it was not tested in rats. Prorate caused rat kidneys to fail, and speeds up cancer growth. Lithium aspartate may be safer, but you have to take pills one at a time or it will tingle your nerves. Lithium carbonate is the healthiest. The high doses are for bipolar people. No one says you must go high.

Also, orotate just provides a negative charge and separates from lithium in the intestine, having no effect on brain transport. Carbonate is like the carbon dioxide bubbles in soda.

I’ve taken many university chemistry classes. Tons of websites about lithium orotate are written by bloggers and well-being practitioners who know nothing about chemistry and just repeat what they read on other such sites.

]]> By: Emmy https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-31650 Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:15:54 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-31650 By treating – Methylation problems and the micro biome , lithium was stopped for bi polar. It goes much better, no more depression or mania but still anxiety and panic attacks. We keep on struggling.

]]> By: OrganisedPauper https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-31621 Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:12:02 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-31621 There has to be a huge difference between the prescribed use of lithium carbonate and over the counter lithium orotate. The ‘therapeutic’ dose for me of Li carbonate, for Bipolar Disorder, was 1200mg. I ended up with swollen legs, diabetes insipidus, extreme startle reflex, and behavioural problems that weren’t part of my disorder. Thankfully all were reversed when I came off lithium, except the startle reflex. All the listed side effects for lithium seem to be associated prescribed Li carbonate, but the dosage is huge compared to Li orotate.

]]> By: Murray https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-30826 Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:29:32 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-30826 In mentioning the negatives (hypothyroid) it would be helpful to have some information on dosage. I checked you ref links and several other papers – no mention of dose. All reference seem to concern bipolar treatment so dosage is probably very high. Is there any known effect at low dose?

]]> By: K Mac https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-30128 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:47:19 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-30128 Hello there! Your cat’s vet could have recommended it for a hyperthyroid. It seems to helping with quite a few autoimmune diseases. I think because it is filling an important defeciency that humans and animals share because of the depletion of minerals
in our soils.

I’ve been taking it personally and for depression and trying to figure out my dosage. I started at 25 mg lithium
= 5 x 120 mg of lithium orotate. I was feeling great
but ran out and didn’t realize what is was doing for me at the time.
My cat has a hyperthyroid and have been researching to see if lithium orotate will help her.

Good luck!

]]> By: Erica https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-29797 Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:38:22 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-29797 Can anyone advise why my vet has prescribed 5 mg Lithium twice a day for my cat after saying she has a form of Leukemia

]]> By: Janice https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-29699 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:50:20 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-29699 It is all completely useless and just pure marketing without added value. Unless Li blood level values are given with other parameters such as Thyroid hormone levels. Only by laboratory testing you can see what values you have and what Li levels you need to get to get desired effect as well monitoring other impacted parameters to see that it is not impacting something in undesired way.

]]> By: Tooter https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-28029 Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:09:57 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-28029 maybe this? >>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8403198

]]> By: Tooter https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-28028 Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:03:36 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-28028 anger management course…

]]> By: Tooter https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-28027 Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:00:52 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-28027 those symptoms actually sound kind of fun…

]]> By: Robert Hafemeyer https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-27777 Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:31:10 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-27777 Lithium chloride has been shown to increase expression of PPAR gamma. Agonism at PPAR gamma (induced by some other ligand such as BCFAs) is then associated with increased lipolysis. If you are worried about low cAMP, take something like fucoxanthin, caffeine or pentoxifylline you should see increased lipolysis. (Note that with caffeine and pentoxifylline you’d likely see increased lithium excretion)
Also, in this article, Joe talks about MAPK being activated by lithium. MAPK activation is associated with increased lipolysis.
https://selfdecode.com/gene/pparg/#all-ways-to-increase-gene
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23527032
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2633930/

]]> By: Michael https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-27734 Mon, 13 Nov 2017 22:50:13 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-27734 What are your views on Lithium inhibiting noradrenaline and glucagon induced increases in cAMP, which essentially means inhibition of lipolysis??

]]> By: pseudonym https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-27579 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:28:28 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-27579 I take 5mg LO (Lithium Orotate) every morning to counter fatigue from years of treatment resistant chronic insomnia. I’m now post menopause three years and add hot flashes and night sweats to the list of things that disturb my sleep. I first tried LO at night since so many people claim it helps with sleep, but from the very first night it kept me up all night, completely awake, alert and feeling rather upbeat. After a few nights of this I switched to taking LO first thing in the morning. With morning LO I have a better daily mood, more upbeat with more motivation and energy without being hyper, less brain fog and I feel less scattered mentally.

]]> By: Marie https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-26954 Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:43:08 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-26954 Great article, thanks !

]]> By: Marsha https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-26881 Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:14:38 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-26881 Good point. It was slightly confusing trying to figure which Lithium he was referring to– OTC Lithium Oretate (sp?) Or the one that you need a prescription.

]]> By: Jaime https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-25842 Sun, 01 Oct 2017 17:50:30 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-25842 Maybe Serotonin Syndrome? I’d check with a qualified Naturopathic physician if possible.

]]> By: Jaime https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-25840 Sun, 01 Oct 2017 17:40:40 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-25840 Good question. That’s what I was just searching for – what time of day is best to take Lithium Orotate? I took it yesterday evening and felt a pleasant relaxation. Didn’t knock me out tho it was rather gentle.

I’ve read it can actually help cancer.

]]> By: Jaime https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-25839 Sun, 01 Oct 2017 17:38:07 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-25839 Lori – same here! I have had severe mold toxicity and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome for the past decade or two. Started w a new Naturopathic Clinic last week, and this was one of the first things they recommended. I was having to take Xanax occasionally again bc of the extreme severity of anxiety (likely caused by biotoxic environment and CIRS).

My Dad grabbed me a bottle yesterday and after a little research, I dove in. Wow! Within one hour I felt sooooo much more normal!! I do not feel like I am in a mental state of crisis anymore. Really, truly amazing. I was pretty skeptical… thank you, God. I pray this can continue to help me so that eventually I won’t need the Xanax even in emergencies. Well, this and a host of other Holistic treatment methods.

While I realize this is probably not The Holy Grail, I am just so hopeful. I am experiencing too much heightened sensitivies from the mold, and in dire need of something to assist this. We will be treating the mold asap, but for now, I actually feel less bothered by it!

Thanks for your comment bc it really resonated w me and I want to say a big “ditto” to all that! ;) Many blessings to you and your path of healing. I understand feeling older. I am 34, but I have been feeling 84. No way to live!!

Jaime :)

P.s. I am taking 20mg Lithium OROTATE, 1x a Day.
Also, I cut out added sugars and gluten 1 year ago. I highly recommend this for anyone looking to reduce anger, hostility, aggression, etc…

]]> By: Sam https://selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/#comment-24022 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:08:11 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=3102#comment-24022 Joe,

Are you still taking it? How come you stopped if it have brain protective effects?

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